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interest for scientific computing BoF for oSC?
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Andre Massing
2011-07-18 15:34:06 UTC
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Hi there!

I just want to quickly check whether there is a general interest for a
get together at the oSC of people working with scientific computing (SC)
software and openSUSE.
A motivation behind this is to discuss how to improve opensuse as
platform for scientific computing. I am in general very satisfied with
my shortterm experience of openSUSE, including tumbleweed, but I after
my recent switch to this distribution I discovered that quite some
packages which are interested in my SC corner are either outdated or
not available in the *official* repos.
Some of these are:

openmpi outdated (1.2.8)
libatlas (none)
mayavi and enthought related packages (none)
python-scipy (none)
paraview
petsc,trilinos, armadillo (none)
netgen, tetgen, triangle (none)
bullet (none)
cgal, gts (none)
scientific python (none)
suitesparse?

Some of these are spread over different projects like Science and
Education, which results in a significant overlap of packages with
different version numbers, possible incompatibilities etc.

So an idea might be to talk about how to improve the situation, software
which might be interesting to package (maybe even trying to start a
unifying SC project) or about what else comes into your mind!

As I said that are some first thoughts and I am looking forward to
hearing any comment, suggestion etc.

Cheers,
Andre
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Vojtěch Zeisek
2011-07-18 16:02:31 UTC
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Hi
Post by Andre Massing
Hi there!
I just want to quickly check whether there is a general interest for a
get together at the oSC of people working with scientific computing (SC)
software and openSUSE.
A motivation behind this is to discuss how to improve opensuse as
platform for scientific computing. I am in general very satisfied with
my shortterm experience of openSUSE, including tumbleweed, but I after
my recent switch to this distribution I discovered that quite some
packages which are interested in my SC corner are either outdated or
not available in the *official* repos.
openmpi outdated (1.2.8)
libatlas (none)
mayavi and enthought related packages (none)
python-scipy (none)
paraview
petsc,trilinos, armadillo (none)
netgen, tetgen, triangle (none)
bullet (none)
cgal, gts (none)
scientific python (none)
suitesparse?
Some of these are spread over different projects like Science and
Education, which results in a significant overlap of packages with
different version numbers, possible incompatibilities etc.
So an idea might be to talk about how to improve the situation, software
which might be interesting to package (maybe even trying to start a
unifying SC project) or about what else comes into your mind!
As I said that are some first thoughts and I am looking forward to
hearing any comment, suggestion etc.
Cheers,
Andre
I'm biologist, so I'm also highly interested in this question, although
I'm not developer (I help with translations and bug reporting). Just to
remind, there are two important mailing lists for those topics:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/ and
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-edu/ There also has been some
extensive discussion on openFATE, see for example
https://features.opensuse.org/query/tag?tag=scientific
I personally use R (incl. Rkward and so on), a lot of software written
in Java (hehe, is there real need to package it?;-) and easy C binaries.
Also software like KBibTeX and so on. Some software is in repos like
Science, Education, devel:/languages:/R:/ (not so much there at all), ...
So I'm interested in such activity, but I'm not sure how much I can
help. :-)
Best regards!
Vojtěch

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Andre Massing
2011-07-18 17:23:12 UTC
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Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Hi
Post by Andre Massing
Hi there!
I just want to quickly check whether there is a general interest for a
get together at the oSC of people working with scientific computing (SC)
software and openSUSE.
A motivation behind this is to discuss how to improve opensuse as
platform for scientific computing. I am in general very satisfied with
my shortterm experience of openSUSE, including tumbleweed, but I after
my recent switch to this distribution I discovered that quite some
packages which are interested in my SC corner are either outdated or
not available in the *official* repos.
openmpi outdated (1.2.8)
libatlas (none)
mayavi and enthought related packages (none)
python-scipy (none)
paraview
petsc,trilinos, armadillo (none)
netgen, tetgen, triangle (none)
bullet (none)
cgal, gts (none)
scientific python (none)
suitesparse?
Some of these are spread over different projects like Science and
Education, which results in a significant overlap of packages with
different version numbers, possible incompatibilities etc.
So an idea might be to talk about how to improve the situation, software
which might be interesting to package (maybe even trying to start a
unifying SC project) or about what else comes into your mind!
As I said that are some first thoughts and I am looking forward to
hearing any comment, suggestion etc.
Cheers,
Andre
I'm biologist, so I'm also highly interested in this question, although
I'm not developer (I help with translations and bug reporting). Just to
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/ and
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-edu/
Thanks for the pointers. I subscribed to them as well and will forward
the message to those. I recognized a very low traffic on the Education
ml, is that project still active? And what about the science project?
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
There also has been some
extensive discussion on openFATE, see for example
https://features.opensuse.org/query/tag?tag=scientific
Oh, great, I was thinking about opening such a feature request, thanks
for pointing that out, I will add a list of missing interesting software
there.
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
I personally use R (incl. Rkward and so on), a lot of software written
in Java (hehe, is there real need to package it?;-)
and easy C binaries.
Also software like KBibTeX and so on. Some software is in repos like
Science, Education, devel:/languages:/R:/ (not so much there at all), ...
So I'm interested in such activity, but I'm not sure how much I can
help. :-)
Well, that it would be one purpose of a BoF :) Are you planning to
attend the conference?

Cheers,
Andre
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Best regards!
Vojtch
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Bogdan Cristea
2011-07-18 18:58:29 UTC
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Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Hi
Post by Andre Massing
Hi there!
I just want to quickly check whether there is a general interest for a
get together at the oSC of people working with scientific computing (SC)
software and openSUSE.
A motivation behind this is to discuss how to improve opensuse as
platform for scientific computing. I am in general very satisfied with
my shortterm experience of openSUSE, including tumbleweed, but I after
my recent switch to this distribution I discovered that quite some
packages which are interested in my SC corner are either outdated or
not available in the *official* repos.
openmpi outdated (1.2.8)
libatlas (none)
mayavi and enthought related packages (none)
python-scipy (none)
paraview
petsc,trilinos, armadillo (none)
netgen, tetgen, triangle (none)
bullet (none)
cgal, gts (none)
scientific python (none)
suitesparse?
Some of these are spread over different projects like Science and
Education, which results in a significant overlap of packages with
different version numbers, possible incompatibilities etc.
So an idea might be to talk about how to improve the situation, software
which might be interesting to package (maybe even trying to start a
unifying SC project) or about what else comes into your mind!
As I said that are some first thoughts and I am looking forward to
hearing any comment, suggestion etc.
Cheers,
Andre
I'm biologist, so I'm also highly interested in this question, although
I'm not developer (I help with translations and bug reporting). Just to
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/ and
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-edu/
Thanks for the pointers. I subscribed to them as well and will forward
the message to those. I recognized a very low traffic on the Education
ml, is that project still active? And what about the science project?
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
There also has been some
extensive discussion on openFATE, see for example
https://features.opensuse.org/query/tag?tag=scientific
Oh, great, I was thinking about opening such a feature request, thanks
for pointing that out, I will add a list of missing interesting software
there.
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
I personally use R (incl. Rkward and so on), a lot of software written
in Java (hehe, is there real need to package it?;-)
and easy C binaries.
Also software like KBibTeX and so on. Some software is in repos like
Science, Education, devel:/languages:/R:/ (not so much there at all),
... So I'm interested in such activity, but I'm not sure how much I can
help. :-)
Well, that it would be one purpose of a BoF :) Are you planning to
attend the conference?
Cheers,
Andre
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Best regards!
Vojtch
Hi

I am doing research in digital communications and embedded systems. I have the
same feeling that some packages need to be added to openSUSE (e.g. aigaion
(bibliography management) or IT++ (signal processing)). Maybe a wiki page
would be a start in order to list and vote software that could be added to
openSUSE. This could be a good way of advertising less known software useful
for scientists.

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Andre Massing
2011-07-18 19:19:09 UTC
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Hi!

[snip]
Post by Bogdan Cristea
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
There also has been some
extensive discussion on openFATE, see for example
https://features.opensuse.org/query/tag?tag=scientific
[snip]
Post by Bogdan Cristea
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Best regards!
Vojtch
Hi
I am doing research in digital communications and embedded systems. I have the
same feeling that some packages need to be added to openSUSE (e.g. aigaion
(bibliography management) or IT++ (signal processing)). Maybe a wiki page
would be a start in order to list and vote software that could be added to
openSUSE. This could be a good way of advertising less known software useful
for scientists.
Yes, that sounds like a good idea, and I guess the openfate page Vojtěch
pointed is a good starting point, especially

https://features.opensuse.org/309007

where some people have already listed a bunch of desired packages.
The page already contains a growing list for popular scientific
software. I just added there packages I would like to see in openSUSE.
Maybe you would like to add your wishes there as well?
The question is how to proceed with the voting for packages question,
since it is probably unreasonable to vote for "Yes, I want to have the
150 packages in opensuse" since some people has to do some work then,
concerning especially those package which have not been packaged yet at
all in OBS. Lots of things to discuss :)

Kind regards
Andre
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Vojtěch Zeisek
2011-07-19 07:51:09 UTC
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Hi
Post by Andre Massing
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Hi
Post by Andre Massing
Hi there!
I just want to quickly check whether there is a general interest for a
get together at the oSC of people working with scientific computing (SC)
software and openSUSE.
A motivation behind this is to discuss how to improve opensuse as
platform for scientific computing. I am in general very satisfied with
my shortterm experience of openSUSE, including tumbleweed, but I after
my recent switch to this distribution I discovered that quite some
packages which are interested in my SC corner are either outdated or
not available in the *official* repos.
openmpi outdated (1.2.8)
libatlas (none)
mayavi and enthought related packages (none)
python-scipy (none)
paraview
petsc,trilinos, armadillo (none)
netgen, tetgen, triangle (none)
bullet (none)
cgal, gts (none)
scientific python (none)
suitesparse?
Some of these are spread over different projects like Science and
Education, which results in a significant overlap of packages with
different version numbers, possible incompatibilities etc.
So an idea might be to talk about how to improve the situation, software
which might be interesting to package (maybe even trying to start a
unifying SC project) or about what else comes into your mind!
As I said that are some first thoughts and I am looking forward to
hearing any comment, suggestion etc.
Cheers,
Andre
I'm biologist, so I'm also highly interested in this question, although
I'm not developer (I help with translations and bug reporting). Just to
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/ and
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-edu/
Thanks for the pointers. I subscribed to them as well and will forward
the message to those. I recognized a very low traffic on the Education
ml, is that project still active? And what about the science project?
There is some work in those project... At least openSUSE Edication
http://opensuse-education.org/ is actively developed, I'm not so sure
about Science and R repos... openSUSE Medical is active, see
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Medical
Post by Andre Massing
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
There also has been some
extensive discussion on openFATE, see for example
https://features.opensuse.org/query/tag?tag=scientific
Oh, great, I was thinking about opening such a feature request, thanks
for pointing that out, I will add a list of missing interesting software
there.
As I see the list, I should add some software... But might be a wiki
page would be easier to maintain...
Post by Andre Massing
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
I personally use R (incl. Rkward and so on), a lot of software written
in Java (hehe, is there real need to package it?;-)
and easy C binaries.
Also software like KBibTeX and so on. Some software is in repos like
Science, Education, devel:/languages:/R:/ (not so much there at all), ...
So I'm interested in such activity, but I'm not sure how much I can
help. :-)
Well, that it would be one purpose of a BoF :) Are you planning to
attend the conference?
Unfortunately not, I'm to busy with my Ph.D... :-(
Post by Andre Massing
Cheers,
Andre
Post by Vojtěch Zeisek
Best regards!
Vojtch
Have a nice day!
Vojtěch

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