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ka1ifq
2010-12-29 21:31:34 UTC
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Now to figure out why the input is so hot.
Guessing: Topic of a conversation?
(a bit more details would help to understand in what way is input hot)
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
Tnx, Mike.
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There is in most mixers a 20dB mice gain switch make sure that is OFF (
definately in Kmix)
Pete .
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I do not see that in my Kmix, is there a command line switch I can set,
or a file I can edit??

Tnx, Mike.



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Peter Nikolic
2010-12-29 17:45:32 UTC
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Now to figure out why the input is so hot.
Guessing: Topic of a conversation?
(a bit more details would help to understand in what way is input hot)
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
Tnx, Mike.
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There is in most mixers a 20dB mice gain switch make sure that is OFF (
definately in Kmix)

Pete .
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Petr Slavík
2010-12-29 19:03:36 UTC
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Best regards!

I'm using input options Analog Mix. All is going for this cause OK!


bobánek
Now to figure out why the input is so hot.
Guessing: Topic of a conversation?
(a bit more details would help to understand in what way is input hot)
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Rajko
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Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
Tnx, Mike.
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ka1ifq
2010-12-30 14:59:02 UTC
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Post by ka1ifq
Now to figure out why the input is so hot.
Guessing: Topic of a conversation?
(a bit more details would help to understand in what way is input hot)
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as
controls
Post by ka1ifq
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front
Mic.
Post by ka1ifq
Tnx, Mike.
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There is in most mixers a 20dB mice gain switch make sure that is OFF
( definately in Kmix)
Pete .
I do not see that in my Kmix, is there a command line switch I can set,
or a file I can edit??
Tnx, Mike.
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Hi .
SO if you right click in Kmix what happens you should get a window open
with a selection of things Device settings below that chanels click o
chanels and go down the list there should be a 20dB mic gain switch drag
that
over .
the window that open differs depending on where you click try about middle
and by one of the seperator bars that should bring up the correct window
Pete .
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That is my biggest problem, I do get the menu with other items I can drag
over and adjust, but there is no Mic gain switch there. I thought an update to
alsa might fix that but it was no help. I also looked at amixer, alsamixer.

Tnx, Mike.



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Rajko M.
2010-12-30 03:51:03 UTC
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 07:32:57 am ka1ifq wrote:
...
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
I was trying to use Mic*(whatever) and that is not used by Skype.

When you give a lot of gain then the other side can hear you, but voice is
distorted, so they have trouble to understand you. I disabled microphones when
I found out that they are not used.

Skype is using Capture and if it is enabled (in Skype Options) then it can
adjust level automatically. For me that worked fine, although it is funny to
see Capture slider going up and down when I turn head away from microphone.

In KDE 4.5.4 there is check box under the Capture slider used to enable and
disable Capture, in older versions it can be led symbol.
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ka1ifq
2010-12-30 15:02:12 UTC
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What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?
KMix is what I use.
Still can't find where to shut off the Mic Boost, it has to go....
I just lowered the slider.
When it is at the bottom there is no boost.
Tried checking amixer from cmd line, no Mic Boost or anything
similar.
--
Regards,
Rajko
--
With the 'Capture' at min setting the audio is still overdriven, thats why I
am looking for the 'boost', etc. It looks like I have an oddball mixer that
may not be fully supported, it's not a new computer Dell Dimension C521.

Tnx, Mike.

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ka1ifq
2010-12-30 04:50:38 UTC
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Post by Rajko M.
...
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as
controls
Post by Rajko M.
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front
Mic.
Post by Rajko M.
I was trying to use Mic*(whatever) and that is not used by Skype.
When you give a lot of gain then the other side can hear you, but voice is
distorted, so they have trouble to understand you. I disabled microphones
when
Post by Rajko M.
I found out that they are not used.
Skype is using Capture and if it is enabled (in Skype Options) then it can
adjust level automatically. For me that worked fine, although it is funny
to
Post by Rajko M.
see Capture slider going up and down when I turn head away from
microphone.
Post by Rajko M.
In KDE 4.5.4 there is check box under the Capture slider used to enable
and
Post by Rajko M.
disable Capture, in older versions it can be led symbol.
--
Regards,
Rajko
--
Ok, I have seen this happen in Skype while trying to get it setup.
What you describe is exactly what is going on.
What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?
Going to try some more things..
Tnx, Mike.
Still can't find where to shut off the Mic Boost, it has to go....

Tried checking amixer from cmd line, no Mic Boost or anything similar.



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ka1ifq
2010-12-30 04:06:46 UTC
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Post by Rajko M.
...
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
I was trying to use Mic*(whatever) and that is not used by Skype.
When you give a lot of gain then the other side can hear you, but voice is
distorted, so they have trouble to understand you. I disabled microphones
when
Post by Rajko M.
I found out that they are not used.
Skype is using Capture and if it is enabled (in Skype Options) then it can
adjust level automatically. For me that worked fine, although it is funny to
see Capture slider going up and down when I turn head away from microphone.
In KDE 4.5.4 there is check box under the Capture slider used to enable and
disable Capture, in older versions it can be led symbol.
--
Regards,
Rajko
--
Ok, I have seen this happen in Skype while trying to get it setup.

What you describe is exactly what is going on.

What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?

Going to try some more things..

Tnx, Mike.





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Rajko M.
2010-12-30 06:42:04 UTC
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What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?
KMix is what I use.
Still can't find where to shut off the Mic Boost, it has to go....
I just lowered the slider.
When it is at the bottom there is no boost.
Tried checking amixer from cmd line, no Mic Boost or anything
similar.
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Rajko
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Peter Nikolic
2010-12-30 08:12:13 UTC
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Post by ka1ifq
Now to figure out why the input is so hot.
Guessing: Topic of a conversation?
(a bit more details would help to understand in what way is input hot)
Ok, The audio from the mic is at a very high level. I have as controls
"Capture" & "Mux", with both of these at the min setting the audio
still is over driven. The headset is a basic type, no mic amp.
My input options are, Mic, Front Mic, Line and am using the Front Mic.
Tnx, Mike.
--- Sent from my Suse Linux Desktop. ---
There is in most mixers a 20dB mice gain switch make sure that is OFF
( definately in Kmix)
Pete .
I do not see that in my Kmix, is there a command line switch I can set,
or a file I can edit??
Tnx, Mike.
--- Sent from my Suse Linux Desktop. ---
Hi .

SO if you right click in Kmix what happens you should get a window open
with a selection of things Device settings below that chanels click o
chanels and go down the list there should be a 20dB mic gain switch drag that
over .

the window that open differs depending on where you click try about middle
and by one of the seperator bars that should bring up the correct window


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Rajko M.
2010-12-30 17:26:18 UTC
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Post by ka1ifq
What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?
KMix is what I use.
Still can't find where to shut off the Mic Boost, it has to
go....
I just lowered the slider.
When it is at the bottom there is no boost.
Tried checking amixer from cmd line, no Mic Boost or anything
similar.
With the 'Capture' at min setting the audio is still overdriven, thats why
I am looking for the 'boost', etc. It looks like I have an oddball mixer
that may not be fully supported, it's not a new computer Dell Dimension
C521.
I have Mic boost as a slider with 4 levels (this depends on audio hardware).
You should look into Mixer >> Settings >> Configure channels . It must be
somewhere.

It is also possible that card (chip) is not recognized properly, so it keeps
mic boost on and there is no control over it.
Post by ka1ifq
Tnx, Mike.
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Rajko
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ka1ifq
2010-12-30 17:49:28 UTC
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Post by Rajko M.
Post by ka1ifq
What do I do for inputs in Kmix, do I need kmix?
KMix is what I use.
Still can't find where to shut off the Mic Boost, it has to
go....
I just lowered the slider.
When it is at the bottom there is no boost.
Tried checking amixer from cmd line, no Mic Boost or anything
similar.
With the 'Capture' at min setting the audio is still overdriven, thats why
I am looking for the 'boost', etc. It looks like I have an oddball mixer
that may not be fully supported, it's not a new computer Dell Dimension
C521.
I have Mic boost as a slider with 4 levels (this depends on audio hardware).
You should look into Mixer >> Settings >> Configure channels . It must be
somewhere.
It is also possible that card (chip) is not recognized properly, so it keeps
mic boost on and there is no control over it.
--
Regards,
Rajko
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I think that is the problem, I do have an older SB pci card I could put
in, bu I am afraid it will just cause more problems.

Thanks for you help/suggestions.

L8ter, Mike.


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